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novice - founder
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Ok guys...  little something about our  future.
I know i have been a very short time in this clan, but i have belife in this clan Smile
Writeing this toipc because i belive that think same & agree ^^  ... so dont let me down xD

We have many top lvl chars, with skils & will  that   other clans does not have  :(
We have big pottential to do raids  and other fun , lets realize it. 

but first, for success we need to be well organized!   and ofc active xD!
Why i 'm wrteing  it  is  because of  converstation i had today with roia.

He is looking for a clan who could be pro raid group and have good discipline.
I know that you guys could do it!
Allready have good organization for crafts... why not also for raids.

Firstof all we should/must implement DKP system!
what is DKP ???   its Dragon kill Points system ,  wich have come from WoW (where raids are much more harder) 
Read more:  HERE
But for that we would need  active Raid Leader!    who chose Raids, and gve commands in RBP.  Its like Clan minister for raids :D , whos rules must be obeyd even if it doesent seem to be quite sencible. Also who gives raid points to players ( or takes away for mistakes) . 

Thats what we was talking about with Roia ( read the converstation from picture added).
Atm  roia is looking for new clan (surprise.surprise XD), so i think it woudl be great loss if we would miss a  GOOD  Raid Leader like him :).

 

Roia post n Illu forum about DKP:
"System will work like this : We all start with 10 DKP, if we get wipe - no problem = all lose the 10 DKP bonus points.
So I suppose you are still fallowing what I'm saying, so i'll continue.
0 DKP points now, if any idiot does smth wrong he loses 10 DKP, if someone corrects his mistake he earns 10 DKP. If we succed at raid all get 10 DKP. If the raid is very hard to kill, and tank + healer/assistant do their job ok, they get bonus 10 DKP ( nukers just nuke, singers/dancer just do smth so no bonus for them ). I will think of smth else later, now I got to go school muhahaha Laughing

LE: This is how we will handle raids on vent ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtvIYRrgZ04 ) for best results I want to be the raid-leader. If there is anyone who oppses and thinks he's better than me no problem but proove it. You will need nerves of steel, knowledge and a very "ugly" language to make all listen. "


- Lets become better ;) -

IG conv with roia : http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4002/roiamela7.jpg


 

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novice - member
11 posts

Ok sounds very nice:D
would be nice to have a good raid group

novice - member
41 posts

Look awesome... i dunno who should be raid leader though. Not me, im a pvper, not a raider. But it sounds really awesome ^_^

whats the advantage of getting DKP tho?

novice - founder
41 posts
IMHO    Roia could do it best :)  ,
This way we could do other groups also (pvp , craft, newbie  .. .etc)
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rookie - member
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well, i guess he can do it if noone else wants to :P

novice - member
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I can be the raid leader, I have experience from the last server :) .

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novice - founder
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sry mate , but nor you or me would be good for it , cuz our activity isnt good enough :D ....

imo raid leaders  bigges porpouse is  that every one else would be quiet!!!  and obey orders not chat aout other things :P ...
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novice - member
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I don't have anything against Kiwi but he needs to be online 100% in the evenings/night so we can raid.

As Sajuk said, I could also be the raid leader but condition is that all use ventrilo when raiding ( at least hear if u don't have microfone ).

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novice - member
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The last post was by me, I forgot to log in :D

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novice - member
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THis is my raidboss how to, read it and do it.

A valuable asset while taking down a Raid Boss is a „tank“. I suggest Shillen Knight or Dark Avenger, Temple Knight should do the job aswell. But the tank needs good buffs a healer and a recharger. The most needed buffs for a tank are provided by Elven Elders and Prophets: Shield, Bless the Shield, Advanced Block, Greater Shield, Haste, Regeneration, Bless the Body, Bless the Soul and Clarity. Elven Elder also can fill the role of a recharger. Another good recharger is Shillen Elder. For healing definatly use a Bishop. If you dont have a Bishop you can also use Elven Elder or Shillen Elder. If you can provide your tank with these buffs/heals/recharges then your tank can stay in one place and aggro the Raid Boss after every few seconds without worries to end up in Mana Points or worse dead. If you dont have an Elven Elder you can use a different strategy. Let the Prophet buff the tank, get a recharger and a healer to assist the tank and let the tank „kite“ the Raid Boss. The tank has to run around a lot, but in the end you will get the job done. Also a Swordsinger could improve the tank partys efficiency by singing the next songs: Song of Life, Song of Meditation, Song of Renewal, Song of Champion.
You can’t take down a Raid Boss without damage dealers. The best damage dealers are nukers(Spellhowler, Spellsinger, Necromancer and Sorcerer) and archers(Silver Ranger, Hawk Eye, Phantom Ranger). Theyre advantages over melee fighters are long range and high damage. Damage dealer party needs good buffs and a recharger(Spellhowler and Necromancer can recharge themselves). For nukers the most important buffs are provided by Shillen Elder and Prophet(Empower, Wild Magic, Concentration and Acumen) for archers you need Prophet buffs. A good damage dealer party needs a Swordsinger and a Bladedancer! Both songs and dances provide necessary buffs for nukers and archers.
Melee party is practically the same, but instead of the recharger they need a healer. The most important buffs are provided by Prophet and for higher damage they could use a Bladedancer. But for melee fighters it would be comfortable if the tank wouldn’t kite.
After establishing the partys it’s important, that everyone would listen to the raid leader commands. The first rule is that noone wouldn’t speak in the main chat. If you want to make a comment to your friend use PM. If there is a lot of text between raid leaders messages then it is easy to get lost and ruin the raid. Second rule: do not PM raid leader, its very hard to lead people and its even harder when someone constantly PM-s you. Third rule: if you don’t have anything really important to say, don’t say it. It’s really annoying when someone constantly blabbers about something what really isn’t helping in any way. Forth rule: don’t ever go away from keyboard without telling the raid leader. If you go AFK without telling, the leader could start the raid and discover that few guys wont react to commands and everyone probably dies. The raid leader should shout(using ! before the message) when he/she deals the commands. In conclusion while raiding try not to talk at all, when someone asks you something be clear, don’t run around and create a disturbance and pay attention to all commands.
The places of damage dealers depend on the Raid Boss. If the raidboss uses a lot of AoE spells or uses a polearm, then its better if the damage dealers stand away from eachother because if the tank should fail and the Raid Boss runs to kill a damage dealer then it kills only one, but if all damage dealers stay in one place the Raid Boss kills them all. If the Raid Boss hits one person per hit, then its easyer for rechargers if everyone stand in a straight row. The tank should be away from damage dealers because if he loses aggro he can pull the Raid Boss back on him/her before the raidboss reaches to kill a damage dealer. When the tank is kiting the Raid Boss then everyone else should clear a way for the tank to run.
What to do when the raid leader says go? First of all if you are a damagedealer then wait for about 15 seconds before nuking/shooting because it’s easy to get aggro on yourself when the tank hasn’t aggroed the Raid Boss as fast as you deal damage. If the tank loses aggro stop nuking/shooting the boss because its important that tank must get the aggro on himself/herself back again. If you are out of mana or need buffs notify the person who should recharge/buff the party. Pay attention to raid leader and always take out the minions first when they appear.
If you follow all those directions here and all directions raid leader gave you you should have a successful raid.

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